I wasn’t expecting to link to a five-year-old video of a conversation about grief today, yet here we are. The topic has been on my mind a lot recently as close friends have lost their parents (and I start contemplating the inevitable loss of my mother, aunts, and uncle) and in the wake of the devastating, ongoing Los Angeles fires.

It’s a beautiful and touching conversation between two men who experienced heart-rending grief at an early age—both Cooper’s and Colbert’s dads died when they were 10 (about the age I lost my dad and grandfather)—and the difficult-yet-invaluable act of sharing our losses with others.