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Fantastic Interview with ‘Apple in China’ Author Patrick McGee on The Daily Show

I watched Jon Stewart’s fantastic interview with Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World’s Greatest Company, with my mouth agape. McGee’s book reveals how Apple unintentionally helped build China’s high-tech electronics manufacturing dominance, and how that dominance is now hurting Apple, the U.S., and possibly the world.

Stewart clearly did his homework with this book, and McGee enthusiastically plays to Stewart’s knowledge of the topic. It’s more conversation than interview.

The numbers and details in McGee’s book are, to use Stewart’s description, jaw-dropping: 28 million workers trained by Apple in China since 2008 (larger than California’s entire labor force); investments of $55 billion a year (the U.S. CHIPS Act, meant to bring this type of high tech manufacturing back to America, is $52 billion over four years); 3 million people in China assembling Apple devices.

What boggled my mind was learning that Apple both enabled and encouraged its China suppliers to build components for Apple competitors, as a way of ensuring those suppliers didn’t go bankrupt as Apple refined devices and eliminated components. Those Apple suppliers helped build China’s electronics intellectual know-how, which they now use to build top-tier smartphones, electric vehicles—and, yes, military weaponry.

Indeed, McGee theorizes that Apple’s foray into low-cost manufacturing and its education of China’s high-tech workforce over the last twenty-five years may be “facilitating the potential annexation of Taiwan,” a notion that blew both Stewart’s and my mind. It’s a scary and potentially deadly object lesson in the law of unintended consequences.

Apple has placed itself in a no-win bind. They need to reduce their dependence on China, but can’t do so easily. Yet by staying in China, they expose themselves to the capricious whims of an autocratic leader with tremendous power over their financial well-being.

(Yes. Precisely.)

Stewart’s interview enticed me to download McGee’s book, more than any written review did. If you want that written review, though, Hannah Beech has a solid one for The New York Times (but I found Stewart’s interview incredibly compelling and infinitely more entertaining).

(One nit with the Times review: Beech writes—

There are a few Chinese misspellings and miscues — the surname Wang is not, in fact, pronounced quite as “Wong.”

My China-born wife—surname Wang and, in fact, pronounced quite as “Wong”—would like a word.)


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